organic mattress

[movinghome]

I read about organic (i think) horse hair matresses. I know it sounds weird but seems to be a not new fad in Europe and is apparently incredibly durable and comfy. Deffo worth a look!

[savana]

My mom is having a problem of slip disk so for her I have to get the mattress, and organic mattresses are really very good and will be worth having as, it will help my mom to get rid of pain she had.

Can you please send some updates about different mattress that are good.

[propertydiamond]

Much better for breathing and skin allergies, I don't really see there being too big a smell problem either.

[Mattcreed]

This is very interesting and having read it, I think I would maybe benefit from Organic Pillows and mattress as I think I suffer with allergies with my current ones

[Tim Deegan]

The truth is that organic mattress are over priced, over hyped, and over rated. They are made by companies who put out loads of propoganda against synthetic products to try and scare people into paying far more for organic products.

The fact is that in many cases synthetic products are better than their organic alternatives. This is because synthetic products were specially designed for that purpose, but organic products have just been adapted.

Synthetic products usually have far better hypoallergenic properties than organic products because bed bugs live off organic properties.

My gran used to have a mattress with horse hair in it, and it was horrible. The horse hairs used to poke though making you itch like mad.

Why can't some people realise when they are being conned?

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Mattcreed

This is very interesting and having read it, I think I would maybe benefit from Organic Pillows and mattress as I think I suffer with allergies with my current ones

You would be better off with hypoallergenic synthetic pillows then.

[hometruths]

Mattress resellers will often try to persuade you that synthetic is better but their advice is biased. The truth is simply that synthetic fibers are cheaper to manufacture and so their profit margins are much bigger.

Having said that, the mere fact that something is organic does not mean that other factors, such as design and quality of construction, do not matter. If you’re paying a premium for a certified organic mattresses, you’d want to make sure that the overall quality of the mattress is reflected in the price you’re paying, i.e. that you’re getting a top-quality spring unit and generous fillings, for example. Otherwise, you’re falling for a marketing ploy and may well end up paying over the odds for a mattress whose only merit is that it is organic.

If you’re buying a latex mattress, always ask how thick the latex core is: latex is much more expensive than wool, for instance, and so manufacturers will often try to make up the difference by padding out the mattress with wool. The mattress may seem comfortable enough in the showroom but you have to ask yourself what will happen when the wool begins to compress and you are left with just a thin core of latex separating you from the bed slats. A friend of mine recently bought a so-called ‘springy futon’, which was advertised as having ‘a core of coconut fibre (coir) and pure latex’. The futon felt good the first night it was slept on but within days, and despite frequent turning, it began to sag. On opening the futon cover and inspecting the contents, it turned out that the so-called ‘coir-latex core’ was no more than rubberized coir, i.e. a coir pad which had simply been sprayed with latex to bond the fibers together!

Another organic mattress I tried out in a shop was advertised as having a 15cm latex core, however simply by feeling the outer perimeter of the mattress with my hand I could tell that the latex core was much thinner than that, even taking into account any compression the latex may have suffered as a result of being stuffed into a tight mattress casing and tufted.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by hometruths

Mattress resellers will often try to persuade you that synthetic is better but their advice is biased. The truth is simply that synthetic fibers are cheaper to manufacture and so their profit margins are much bigger.

You have actually got this completely the wrong way around. It is the manufacturers of organic products who put out scare stories and propoganda to try and scare people into spending huge amounts of money on organic products. When the truth is that synthetic products are specially made for the purpose, but organic products aren't.

You also have to remember that dust mites and bed bugs prefer to live on organic materials.

Originally Posted by hometruths

Having said that, the mere fact that something is organic does not mean that other factors, such as design and quality of construction, do not matter. If you’re paying a premium for a certified organic mattresses, you’d want to make sure that the overall quality of the mattress is reflected in the price you’re paying, i.e. that you’re getting a top-quality spring unit and generous fillings, for example. Otherwise, you’re falling for a marketing ploy and may well end up paying over the odds for a mattress whose only merit is that it is organic.

I agree with this. Although it's the type of spring unit that is important, as there aren't many independent spring manufacturers, so most of the mattress manufacturers use at least two of them, and they would be the same companies regardless of the mattress being organic or not.

Originally Posted by hometruths

If you’re buying a latex mattress, always ask how thick the latex core is: latex is much more expensive than wool, for instance, and so manufacturers will often try to make up the difference by padding out the mattress with wool. The mattress may seem comfortable enough in the showroom but you have to ask yourself what will happen when the wool begins to compress and you are left with just a thin core of latex separating you from the bed slats. A friend of mine recently bought a so-called ‘springy futon’, which was advertised as having ‘a core of coconut fibre (coir) and pure latex’. The futon felt good the first night it was slept on but within days, and despite frequent turning, it began to sag. On opening the futon cover and inspecting the contents, it turned out that the so-called ‘coir-latex core’ was no more than rubberized coir, i.e. a coir pad which had simply been sprayed with latex to bond the fibers together!

Another organic mattress I tried out in a shop was advertised as having a 15cm latex core, however simply by feeling the outer perimeter of the mattress with my hand I could tell that the latex core was much thinner than that, even taking into account any compression the latex may have suffered as a result of being stuffed into a tight mattress casing and tufted.

Latex isn't usually used as the core of the mattress, it is the comfort layer. The ones you have refered to are complete gimmicks.

What is important is that a mattress has at least 2" of natural latex as a comfort layer. And for the best support it should be on top of full size steel pocket springs.

You also have to take into account that to be called pure latex it only has to contain at least 20% natural latex. To be called natural latex it must contain at least 80% natural latex. Also a mattress that contains 80% natural latex, and a large amount of graphite (which is used to make the latex cheaper to manufacture, but doesn't give the same support or cooling properties), then it could still be called organic.

Then there are also the adverts that say 'contains natural latex', which could actually mean that it contains some natural latex, but it could be very little.

[hometruths]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

You have actually got this completely the wrong way around. It is the manufacturers of organic products who put out scare stories and propoganda to try and scare people into spending huge amounts of money on organic products. When the truth is that synthetic products are specially made for the purpose, but organic products aren't.

This is a completely specious argument. Synthetic products are not made for purpose, they are made for profit. The fact that they might also serve a purpose is a secondary consideration to the mind of mattress manufacturers (and, if I may add, mattress resellers like yourself).

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

You also have to remember that dust mites and bed bugs prefer to live on organic materials.

The natural lanolin in wool repels dust mites and latex naturally resists dust mites, microbes, mold, mildew and fungus.

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Latex isn't usually used as the core of the mattress, it is the comfort layer.

That is only because it's a very costly material. If you'd done your research you'd know that all-latex mattresses are selling big time in America because they offer unsurprassed levels of comfort and support as well as being breathable and very hygienic.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by hometruths

This is a completely specious argument. Synthetic products are not made for purpose, they are made for profit. The fact that they might also serve a purpose is a secondary consideration to the mind of mattress manufacturers (and, if I may add, mattress resellers like yourself).

I have never read anything so rediculous in my life. All products are produced for profit, and those who produce organic products make far higher profits than most, because they use scare tactics to frighten people into paying more.

Are you trying to say that mattress ticking and wadding aren't made for that very purpose??? Another stupid statement!!!

I don't hide the fact that I am in the bed industry (which is how I know what I am talking about. The difference is that I can sell whatever beds or mattresses I like (organic or synthetic). And I give honest advice.
Maybe you should reveal your interest in organic products??

Originally Posted by hometruths

The natural lanolin in wool repels dust mites and latex naturally resists dust mites, microbes, mold, mildew and fungus.

Wool isn't the only material used in organic mattresses. And in general dust mites, bed bugs, and other nastys like to live on organic materials, and don't like synthetic materials.

As for latex, yes you are right. Although most mattresses that contain latex aren't organic due to the other materials used.

Originally Posted by hometruths

That is only because it's a very costly material. If you'd done your research you'd know that all-latex mattresses are selling big time in America because they offer unsurprassed levels of comfort and support as well as being breathable and very hygienic.

If you had done your homework you would know that most of those latex mattresses are not organic, and most of them don't even use organic latex.