Rightmove

[HughThistle]

It seems that Rightmove can charge what they like just as long as there is not an alternative--one that is as popular with house hunters anyway.

Are estate agents really just stuck paying whatever RM ask? How much would be too much for you?

[Ownerhome]

I still don't know what the hype is with Rightmove....they've had their day!

There are plenty of alternitives out there for Agents, without being held to ransom by RM. We use Globrix.com who are a massive rival and have now overtaken RM in the visitors stakes....and they don't charge a penny!! (yet anyway).

Check out Statbrain and Alexa for the difference in visitors per day.
Rightmove get on average of 3600
Globrix get 23000!!

Understandably these are not all 'people clicks' as some are spiders trawling (nerd talk!!), but the difference is pretty clear.

[brian]

Alex isn't a reliable measure - and Rightmove has a pretty comprehensive list of properties.

Whereas Globrix just looks a confused mess - like some form of scraper that hasn't got a clue.

Rightmmove is a professional site for the property market - Globrix looks like an opportunist attempt by some programmers to get VC money and then sell out before it falls flat.

[drhouse]

Originally Posted by HughThistle

It seems that Rightmove can charge what they like just as long as there is not an alternative--one that is as popular with house hunters anyway.

Are estate agents really just stuck paying whatever RM ask? How much would be too much for you?

The word is that Right Move will be hiking their charges next year so look at the alternatives. I wish I could see a lot more promotion for Property Live - if they got their act together they could do well. I have recently used property index and zoopla on a pay per lead basis and have been surprised at what has come through. I am not impressed with Globrix.

I dislike Rightmove intensely as they gave no support to agents who needed help in the last 2 years but I would use them if there was no alternative. Luckily I have an alternative with my local solicitor property centre which, in my area, works better for me than Right Move evr did

[Ownerhome]

[quote=Advertisehomes;8725]Do you need to advertise your properties on Rightmove but don't want to pay the earth?
Send your property details to me and I will post them on RM for you. Cost is £89 per month and £30 per month thereafter per property. quote]

The whole point of this post is...you don't NEED to advertise with Rightmove...so how is charging £89 per month to advertise with them a good deal? more's the point how is an agent getting their profile out there by advertising with you...or am I missing something?

There are alternitives as drhouse pointed out it's a matter of preference and exposure..We haven't used Zoopla since it bought out Thinkproperty.com as I don't think it's as user friendly and I'm a bit wary of the pay per lead.

[drhouse]

[quote=Ownerhome;8728]

Originally Posted by Advertisehomes

Do you need to advertise your properties on Rightmove but don't want to pay the earth?
Send your property details to me and I will post them on RM for you. Cost is £89 per month and £30 per month thereafter per property. quote]

The whole point of this post is...you don't NEED to advertise with Rightmove...so how is charging £89 per month to advertise with them a good deal? more's the point how is an agent getting their profile out there by advertising with you...or am I missing something?

There are alternitives as drhouse pointed out it's a matter of preference and exposure..We haven't used Zoopla since it bought out Thinkproperty.com as I don't think it's as user friendly and I'm a bit wary of the pay per lead.

I agree about Zoopla. We were with Thinkproperty though and it seems our homes are now all listed on Zoopla and we are not on pay per lead. I am happy with that for now. With Property Index we were offered a free £50 credit so are using that. There haven't been huge amounts of leads - maybe it is less well known in Scotland - but most of the ones we have had have been good, generally booking viewings. I have disputed a couple that seemed like spam and was credited immediately. Worth checking if they are still offering a free credit.

[googler]

£250 a month !?!?!?!



£89 per month and £30 per month thereafter per property !?!?!?!

again.

[Martha Farkas]

Originally Posted by googler

£250 a month !?!?!?!



£89 per month and £30 per month thereafter per property !?!?!?!

again.

You're either Scottish (Rightmove not a factor there), not an EA or one of the few that just doesn't use them. £250 per month is under half what most EAs are charged to use Rightmove, for your edification, because it is the most used way that people in England use to search for property.

In case you haven't been keeping up, your own nickname is slightly ironic. Google are about to enter the market and permit private users to sell their properties (as well as EAs). This will completely kill the High St agent in time. Who needs a window when you have Windows? There will be a time soon when Internet EAs will rule. The ones that are successful will be those that add in the usual EA services like viewings and ensuring the deal reaches completion. Mark my words.

[googler]

Originally Posted by Martha Farkas

You're either Scottish (Rightmove not a factor there), not an EA or one of the few that just doesn't use them. £250 per month is under half what most EAs are charged to use Rightmove, for your edification, because it is the most used way that people in England use to search for property.

In case you haven't been keeping up, your own nickname is slightly ironic. Google are about to enter the market and permit private users to sell their properties (as well as EAs). This will completely kill the High St agent in time. Who needs a window when you have Windows? There will be a time soon when Internet EAs will rule. The ones that are successful will be those that add in the usual EA services like viewings and ensuring the deal reaches completion. Mark my words.

Right first time. RM has less than 30% of the pre-owned listings in my (Scottish) locale, nowhere near the lion's share that it would need to claim No. 1 position. The new-builds seem to favour it, but not the established market.

I have been 'keeping up', as you put it, and I'm not convinced that what google is offering is quite 'selling' properties, merely putting flags on a map which link to property websites (or to seller's phone numbers...?)

Who needs a window? Well, does everyone in the land have a computer? What about those who don't? How about those who don't have an iPad or WiFi Netbook yet, and are househunting in a town that's distant from their home? If they're travelling to check the place out, how are they going to see a selection of properties without agents on the high street in their target town? Who buys houses from a website, sight unseen, and without going to the town or city where they're moving to?

Your last two sentences are a contradiction; internet EAs will rule (without high-street offices?), but the ones that will succeed are the ones that provide the 'usual EA services' - i.e. what they're doing at the moment. Clarify? You seem to be proposing a continuation of the current high-street agent model.

The way I see it, many of those in favour of online EAs draw comparisons which suggest that a certain percentage of people 'find their homes online', and this percentage varies from around 77% to the 99% quoted recently by Sarah Beeny when promoting her self-sale website (along with a few other overstatements).

Others quote that this percentage of people 'start their search' for property online, which is a totally different slant on the process, implying that they use the internet to form a shortlist, then move on to other things, such as interacting with real EA people.

Those favouring online EAs then suggest that because of these figures, online EAs are better placed, apparently with the implication that the online EA has a website, and the high-street EA doesn't.

Well, down my way the High-Street agents have their own websites, and these websites, in my estimation, get far more traffic than any of the self-sale or online EA websites. They certainly have more properties listed on them. Why would any housebuyer bother to look at a self-sale or online EA website with (for example) 3 or 4 scattered properties on it, when over 500 can be found on a couple of the main High-Street EAs sites?

[Martha Farkas]

Originally Posted by googler

Right first time. RM has less than 30% of the pre-owned listings in my (Scottish) locale, nowhere near the lion's share that it would need to claim No. 1 position. The new-builds seem to favour it, but not the established market.

I have been 'keeping up', as you put it, and I'm not convinced that what google is offering is quite 'selling' properties, merely putting flags on a map which link to property websites (or to seller's phone numbers...?)

Who needs a window? Well, does everyone in the land have a computer? What about those who don't? How about those who don't have an iPad or WiFi Netbook yet, and are househunting in a town that's distant from their home? If they're travelling to check the place out, how are they going to see a selection of properties without agents on the high street in their target town? Who buys houses from a website, sight unseen, and without going to the town or city where they're moving to?

Your last two sentences are a contradiction; internet EAs will rule (without high-street offices?), but the ones that will succeed are the ones that provide the 'usual EA services' - i.e. what they're doing at the moment. Clarify? You seem to be proposing a continuation of the current high-street agent model.

The way I see it, many of those in favour of online EAs draw comparisons which suggest that a certain percentage of people 'find their homes online', and this percentage varies from around 77% to the 99% quoted recently by Sarah Beeny when promoting her self-sale website (along with a few other overstatements).

Others quote that this percentage of people 'start their search' for property online, which is a totally different slant on the process, implying that they use the internet to form a shortlist, then move on to other things, such as interacting with real EA people.

Those favouring online EAs then suggest that because of these figures, online EAs are better placed, apparently with the implication that the online EA has a website, and the high-street EA doesn't.

Well, down my way the High-Street agents have their own websites, and these websites, in my estimation, get far more traffic than any of the self-sale or online EA websites. They certainly have more properties listed on them. Why would any housebuyer bother to look at a self-sale or online EA website with (for example) 3 or 4 scattered properties on it, when over 500 can be found on a couple of the main High-Street EAs sites?

You are an EA who has targeted the people that don't have a computer? Good luck with that! There can't be many people who don't use a computer to start their search and then go to where they want to look! Does anyone start by walking up the High Street hoping that there might be an estate agent there? You Scottish are a different market though so please note that I am talking about the English market.

Just to clarify my point as you asked me to. I think that the internet EA who does away with an expensive office and lowers his / her prices and carries on with valuations, viewings, negotiating and closing in person will do very well. Matching a buyer with a seller will now be done more or less exclusively online, I think.

The Google thing has the potential to drive this on. Rightmove is not very much more than a central place to drive buyers towards EA websites and real people. Google will offer this free of charge (initially, I guess!) and also permit private buyers to do it. It's not a great leap for people to dump Rightmove and use Google to start their search by searching for something like "Property in Chipping Norton" or some such.